We talked about this on the phone already about your contact with them. >> I never contact him. >> You told me not to talk to them. I did not call them. >> Let me explain something. He has uh bipolar. >> Okay. >> He has been off his medicine. >> So, he's going to be kind of agitated. >> What's going to wind up happening? You're going to get tased here. So, put your shoes on. You're going to be charged of resisting and you're not going to be getting out today. Period. I'm going to give you count to three. You're going to get tased. So, it's going to wind up happening. A mother tried to escape a toxic relationship, but her ex-boyfriend wouldn't let go. After a terrifying custody exchange where he refused to release their child, the ex-boyfriend escalated to digital stalking, using his own mother's phone to bypass a block and terrorize his victim. He thought a phone screen would protect him from the consequences. But on Christmas Day, police arrived to deliver a very different message. Hey. Hey. >> I'm Officer Caps with the Villa Park Police Department. Is Joel here? >> Yes. >> All right. We just need to speak with him. If you could have him step out. >> Joey. >> Yeah. >> All right. Joel, if you could just step out here, if you want to put some shoes on for a second, just so we could talk >> about what? I didn't do nothing >> about this situation from the other day. >> Huh? >> About the situation with Elizabeth from the other day. Just put some shoes on and come out here. >> What did I do? >> It's okay. We talked about this on the phone already about your contact with her. >> I never contact her. >> You had multiple text messages from her or to her. >> My mom. >> That is my mom's phone. >> That was your mom's phone, but you were texting from her and you told me on the phone that you would not talk to her. Am I right? >> I didn't. >> I did not. >> Just put some shoes on and come out here. >> Arrest me. >> Just put your shoes on and come out here. >> If you don't come out here, we're going to get a warrant for your arrest. So either way, you're going to be getting arrested. >> What? If you come out now, we can get this taken care of. But if you don't come out now, we're going to get a warrant for your arrest and you're going to be arrested either way. >> So, do you want to take care of this right now? >> Talk to them. >> Wait a minute. >> There's text messages and proof that >> Wait a minute. What? There's an order of protection against him. >> Yes. >> He was served in May of this year. >> Uh, she revoked that. >> It's not revoked in our system. It's currently active. You said do not You said do not talk to her. I did not text her or call her at all. >> You already violated the order by contacting her. >> Twitter. >> Ma'am, I'm talking to Joel right now. So, if you want to step back, >> what about her contacting him? >> You guys are only allowed to have contact with each other when it comes. >> They've been here be after me. >> She's You guys do the custody exchange here, right? >> She comes here every Friday and Saturday. She comes here. >> No, he's been here for 20 days. She He's been here for 20 days straight. She just took them home. >> Right now, you're under violation of the order of protection. You can deal with this all in court. >> You told me not to talk TO THEM. I DID NOT CALL THEM. >> CALM DOWN. Just relax. >> Go get your shoes on. >> No, I DID NOTING CALL THEM. >> I listened. Let me explain. So, he has uh bipolar. >> Okay. He has been off his medicine, >> so he's going to be kind of agitated. >> Okay. >> And we've been trying to get a hold of the psychiatrist to get him. >> Um I don't know if any of you guys are here on uh Thursday or something like that. >> He had the I saw video of it, but no, I was not present. >> We all went to court. >> But but what So he's going to be pretty educated. >> Okay. So, I don't know how he's going to be >> handling this the whole time. >> So, just so you're aware, one of the things in his one of the remedies in his order of protection is that he's supposed to stay on his medication. So, if he's off his medication, he's also in violation for that. >> I'm trying to get him into >> a hospital. He needs a hospital. He does not need jail. >> That will just sort of blow everything up terribly and he won't >> right now. We have to get this taken care of and then you guys can figure out the contacting his counselor and all that and getting the medication set. >> She's had that since May. Is does that only go one way that he can't have contact with her and she cannot have contact with him? >> One way so he cannot have contact >> she can come over here and sit and smoke and do whatever she wants here. >> If that's going on then you guys can talk about that in court and you can let them know that she's arresting me. she's not abiding by the rules of the order of protection because if she's if she's pursuing and she's contacting him, you guys can let them know that >> since May every day should come over. >> But right now, all we have is that he's in violation of the order of protection. We have to get that taken care of regardless. >> We got to see what we can do. >> Okay. Thank you, >> Joey. You know this for sure. >> Checked it. Sergeant checked the check as well. I talked to him earlier. >> Then why are they let why are they letting her come to the house? >> You know there's an OP. You know he's in violation even if you just let her come to the house. So what are you doing? >> Mhm. >> She was literally at the police department. >> And I talked to her this morning. No, not right now. But I saw her the other day and then talked to her today. I think we got him to take his medicine this morning. He hasn't taken it for all right if we come in. >> No. Okay. It's better if his his dad tries to calm him down. But it in all honesty, I threatened I threatened her that I was going to start uh that I was going to claim my grandson. He was here so much. >> Okay. You guys are going to have to deal with that in court because right now there's child custody court paperwork. You guys have had court case or [snorts] he's had court cases with her. >> Yeah. And we went and they canled it. They cancelled the OP. Right now, the order of protection is currently active. She does this stuff. I had no idea because it was cancelled. He was given he was given visitation and it was cancelled. >> In the order of protection, it says that the only contact they can have is when it comes to visitation logo. >> She's been here. >> Yeah. It doesn't matter. It's the order protections are one way unfortunately. You guys, but that's just the way she brings the kids in. >> You guys let her in. >> Okay. Hey, there's nothing we can do about it. >> She said it was cancelled. >> Well, it's not unfortunately. >> So, you're going to arrest my son on Christmas. >> You have to take him into custody. We have to get this taken care of. >> Yeah, you need to call her. She took my grandson to Nebraska and didn't even tell me. >> I SAW IT ON I SAW IT ON FACEBOOK. She was She was here last week. >> I'm going to tell you that lying. It's just that that's >> She sits her right there. Excuse my language, but it really pisses me off. Well, I'm sure it does. But she's going to have to go back or he's going to have to take her back to court if that's what she did. >> Yeah, she did. >> He's going to take her back to court. >> He's never taken her to court. She's always taken him to court. >> Yeah, he's going to have to take her back. >> And then, like I said, he takes she goes on she goes on vacation. Doesn't even tell me she's taking my grandson out of the state. >> She's making she's making him more agitated. the >> they both unfortunately. >> What did he say? >> He said he's going to call Manny though. >> Yeah. What are you trying to do? >> My dad's trying to get out without Okay. >> I DID NOT DO NOTHING. YOU >> WAIT. Can I talk to you? >> No. >> Told me not to call them and I DID NOT CALL THEM. >> HELP. We were looking at a >> I understand. Do you mind if I just talk to you >> so you can arrest? THEY WERE HERE LAST WEEK. >> OKAY. Hangs out. >> Hold on. Listen. I understand that she's been coming here doing whatever she wants. >> So, how am I being arrested? >> Here's the thing. >> With an order of protection. >> You were here 2 days ago. >> I wasn't here. I don't even know you. >> YOU THE HOUSE WAS FILLED WITH COPS. >> I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU. I wasn't here. >> Okay. I I I get it. I wasn't here. Listen, >> I HAVE HAD NO CONTACT WITH THEM. >> OKAY, hold on. Here's the thing. Even if she comes here and you guys open the door for her, you're still going to be the one who's in violation. >> You guys don't have a locker. We don't lock the door. >> Okay. Tell her she has to leave. >> Tell her she has to leave. >> Yeah, we never know. >> Nobody told us >> they canled the order of protection in May. If you don't see it on paper, don't believe her. >> Arrest me. >> That's the thing. If you haven't seen it on paper, don't believe her. >> Apparently, the order of protection is back in place. Okay. Rather than like doing all of this right now, >> I cannot contact them. >> But she did say you contacted them. >> He talked on the phone. >> That's a violation. Listen, it's a violation. It's the law >> for her to call me. Listen, I'm not yelling at you. >> You just said there was proof. >> If she called you, >> if she called you and you answered the phone and talked to her, this is how people lure each other in into these situations. >> I did not do nothing. >> I'm not saying you. >> So, you got arrested. >> Unfortunately, you're the one who's on the order of protection. You would be in violation. >> It's stupid the way the system works. She should get arrested, too. But it doesn't work that way. I have to BAIL MYSELF OUT. >> THERE'S NO BAIL. >> I'm getting locked up. >> Taking you down to the station and that's it. And then you'll be released. >> He has PTSD when it comes to being locked up. >> I understand. But this is what we have to go through right now. Okay. >> Please. >> Here's your shoes. >> And when you go to court, you could talk to the judge about it and tell them. And if she comes here, tell her, "Get the out of my house." Pardon my language. >> But still, but still, like, she knows. >> She knows she has an order of protection. >> I have >> and she's Friday and Saturdays with my son. >> I understand. >> That's what the judge said. >> So, let's get this taken care of >> so you can arrest me. >> Yes. >> Here's the thing. >> Answer your judge. It's going to make you look better to take care of all of this and go to court and tell them what happened and maybe the judge will see you in a different light and her according to >> I did a violent >> shut up. No, you don't. cuz you're arresting me. >> I'm not arresting you. Okay. >> I have to go to the station with you. That's not arrest. >> Okay. >> Your family can go out and testify on your behalf. They will docu start documenting everything. Okay? >> And and then you can turn this around on her. Okay? Don't make yourself look bad. You're going to make yourself look bad if you don't comply with this. And then you won't see your kids. >> She's not letting me. >> Okay. THEN >> I DIDN'T DO NOTHING. YOU COULD JUST MAKE A RESTRAINING ORDER FOR NOTHING. >> IF SHE'S not letting you and she keeps doing this, you tell the judge, "This is what I constantly have to go through. Take your family in to testify on your behalf and you can get this all taken care of." And then you could turn it around at her and get an order of protection to her because she's trying to >> eventually eventually have her arrested too. So you could just make a report that somebody's talking to you when they're not. People make reports about everything. And if I don't know what she showed these officers, okay, again, I'm from Lombard. They're from Villa Park. I don't know what she showed them. I wasn't there. But apparently, they wouldn't come all the way to Lombard on some [ __ ] Especially, Listen, cops don't want to do on Christmas Day. We don't want to do this. >> So, WHY ARE YOU HERE? >> WE HAVE TO. >> Why are you here if I cannot [laughter] contact them? >> Because here's the thing with domestic violence, it's taken. >> There's no domestic violence. >> Let me finish. With domestic violence cases, we it's taken very seriously in the state of Illinois and with any report of a violation of order protection, we have to respond immediately. Okay. >> So you she called today? >> Yes, she called the other day. We spoke to her again today. Before I called you, you were already talking to her. >> No, she didn't. >> Yeah. And you told me not to contact her. I did not contact her. >> But the order of protection was in place since May. any contact with her that has nothing to do with she doesn't owe me nothing about it. >> You were served with the paper because she doesn't give a and she wants you in trouble. That's why I'm telling you just go with them. Take care of this and then take her back to court. Just put your shoes on. We'll get this taken care of and you'll be all good to go to jail. >> Right now you're going to you're under arrest for violating the order of >> So you can just It's he say he say she say >> you have your day in court. That's how that's how it works. >> I did not contact them. WE UNDERSTAND. >> SO WHY ARE YOU ARRESTING ME? >> BECAUSE even with her contacting you, it's a violation. I get it. It's [ __ ] Total [ __ ] She should be arrested. I get it. All right. But unfortunately, that's not the way the law works. Don't make yourself look bad in court, man. Cuz all of this is like being recorded, and you don't want her to see like, "Oh, look. He's acting like this. This is why I have the order to protect. You don't want her to use any ammunition against you. You want to see your kid, right? >> She's not going to let me. >> It's not up to her. >> It is up to her. >> It's not up to her. It's up to a judge. If you take her back to court and you show them, look, I've been compliant. I haven't been talking to her. She keeps trying to do this to get me in trouble. I have my family as witnesses. You can turn it around. >> Okay? Please don't make this any harder. >> Make it easy, man. Take it up. Police arrive and we'll get you out of there as soon as possible. >> Just take care of it. Okay. She's a scumbag, Joey >> for doing this on Christmas day. >> We'll burn her. >> I'M GETTING BURNED. NOBODY SERVED ME. >> YOU'RE NOT GETTING BURNED. You're not getting burned. Unfortunately, you have to deal with this right now. >> But if you do it and you go and you comply, it's not you're you don't look like an [ __ ] in front of the >> You want to look good >> cuz that that will go against you. You're you're >> I won the court date matter. She got an order of protection against >> so I can just write an order of protection. >> The judge issued you an order of protection back then in May. Okay. She came here and lied and said she canceled it. She never showed you guys any proof of that. Okay. >> So, how is that my fault? >> It's not screwed. Nobody saying it's your fault. Nobody. We all agree that this is wrong. >> And you're not the first This is not the first time she's probably done this. And you're not going to be the first one, >> right? Anything she says from now on, listen, if she tells you it's light outside, open your window and look outside because it's probably dark. >> You know what I'm saying to you? >> Like, she's going to lie to you to get what she wants and manipulate the situation. She feels like she could just come in here and do whatever she wants. And you guys have to put a stop to that. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Don't let her >> stop inching closer to me, Joey. >> All right. Do you need to get this taken care of? >> Just put your shoes on. [clears throat] What's going to wind up happening? You're going to get tased here. So, put your share of shoes on. You're going to be charged of resisting and you're not going to be getting out today. Period. That's not So, I'm going to I'm going to give you I'm going to give you count to three. You're going to get ted up happening. Please, Joey. >> Just put your shoes on. >> I'm not I'm not coming at you. Okay. Turn around. Turn around. Let her put your handcuffs on. Put your handcuffs on. Turn around. Let her put her handcuffs on. Okay. Do something. TAKE YOUR BADGE OFF AND do something. >> Appcate it. I appreciate it. >> Please stop your mouth. Okay, >> you're doing good. This is healthy. >> He was here lasting week. >> Okay, let's >> I had him for 20 days straight. >> Put your shoes on. >> Will not help. >> Tell the judge. >> Put your shoes on. Put your shoves. >> Well, then put him in the front of him. >> He's fine. He's fine. I'll be right right behind you. Good job. All right, I got to check you before we get in the car. Do you have anything on you? Okay, just hang out here for a second. Just don't get in the car. I'm going to check you before. Okay, just wait. Stand right there between the door. All right. Step up. All right. Stand to the left. Let me get him this way. >> I'm going to release your your hand. Once I release it, put your hand on your head. Okay. All right. Take a seat on the bench over here. His persistence earned him a holiday he won't forget. Instead of celebrating Christmas morning with family, he was handcuffed, transported to the county jail, and booked on a charge of violation of an order of protection. The relentless texting finally stopped, not because he chose to, but because he was behind bars.