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On September 3rd, 2024 in Rine,
Wisconsin, officers were dispatched to a
school where a woman kidnapped her own
child so she wouldn't lose custody of
him. She flew from Arizona all the way
to Wisconsin to attempt to escape the
legal consequences. Officers have no
idea the amount of trouble she's about
to cause them right in front of her own
child.
 Michaela.
 Yes.
 I'm Detective Sher
with the Calonia Police Department. We
need to talk. You two need to come
outside.
 Okay.
 You can stay here. Okay.
Please outside. Okay.
 Thank you, ma'am.
These people the officer asked to step
outside are Mckela's parents. Take note
that they'll be watching through the
door everything that's about to happen.
What's this guy's name?
 He's Carson.
 Hi,
Carson.
 I'm Detective Schustster. How
are you?
 Good.
 Good.
 Good. We got to
have a conversation. You want to close
that door, Elie?
 Okay.
Hello.
 You know what this about?
 Yeah.
With the dad and all that.
 Yeah. Would
you mind taking
the ass
with Carson real quick? Would you mind
just going in there? Carson, would you
mind going with your teacher for a
second?
 We're going to go look. We can
play a game.
 Obviously, we know like you
missed a court date or something
 um in
Arizona because they told me that they
were going to take him from me at the
courthouse. Okay.
 So, I was not going to
fly out there and then have my subject
taken from me.
 I currently have an OP
against Connor right now. Um, my mom
does too for harassment
 in Wisconsin.
Yeah, in Wisconsin.
 Okay. Because you
missed court and they gave full custody
to your ex.
 So, right now,
 that's how is
that possible? Cuz he's like,
 there's a
court order for
 show to court
 because he
I never actually got served. I didn't
even know about it. Supposed to be
 I'm
not going to argue with what's going on
in court in Arizona. So, we got to take
you into custody right now.
 No, I can't.
Yeah, it's going to happen. So,
 no. How
is that? No, I can't do that right now.
Relax. Relax. Listen. It's my son's day.
Relax. No, I'm at the school. I have
serious. You're not listening to me.
 No,
it's my son's day.
 I don't want to
traumatize him. You're going to
traumatize him. You're going to
traumatize your son. Relax. Relax. We
already told you. We already told you.
Relax. You can't take my parents.
No, you guys can't.
Remember that Mckela's parents are
observing from right outside. They're
about to make a huge mistake.
 Stay away.
Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back
up. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up.
We are the police. Back up. Get out. Get
out. Get out. Get out.
 I'm getting my
glasses.
 I don't care. Here. Get out.
You're not doing this.
 Get out. Get out.
You're not doing this.
 I have an order
to get this.
 Okay.
 Officers now need to
inform McKela about where her son will
have to go without her freaking out
further.
 Relax.
 We tried to do this
peacefully.
Hey, I'm call dispatch. We need a mark
car here now.
 But why?
 All right. My son
taken.
 I will never see him again. You
don't realize this. You don't realize
this, sir.
 Relax. We had this chance. Is
the Are these yours?
 No. I'll never see
my son ever again.
 These are hers.
 Yeah.
I'll never see my son ever again.
 Do you
have anything else on you?
 Let me tell
you.
 I understand what you're saying. I
heard you.
 I heard you.
 Nobody's
contacted me at all.
 We'll talk about
this later. Now's not the time.
 Who did
you?
 We tried to do this peacefully.
 I
know.
 And you didn't.
 Because I'm
scared.
 Well, I don't know what to tell
you.
 See, I'm sorry. I'm scared. Okay.
Well,
 I don't want my son My son has to
go with my parents, okay? He cannot go
away from me.
 He's not. He's coming with
me.
 No, he can't.
 He is.
 No, he'll freak
out.
 Please, you guys have to understand
the situation, okay? I currently have an
ID against him. Okay?
 Nobody told me
about this. Okay?
 We're going to go to
the police department and we're going to
have a conversation about this right
now. He's a missing child.
 No, he isn't.
He has the system as a missing child.
Nobody's told me that whatsoever.
 That's
because you have been in contact with
Court. I'm a Wisconsin resident now
because you took your son from Arizona
without
 No, I had a lawyer and I was
allowed to leave the state.
 I'm going to
go talk to your parents real quick. You
hang out here with
 This is embarrassing.
Have a seat. Well, I told you.
 Nobody
told me anything. I'm not talking to
anybody.
Stay there. Don't move.
Everything's good. Okay. Just a little
longer. Okay,
 Carson,
you should have went to court. I don't
know what to tell you.
 Tell me
something.
 I don't know what to tell
you.
 I
 You should have went to court.
But if we told that my son was going to
be taken from me at court,
 well, he
probably wouldn't have been if you had
gone to court.
 My son cannot be taken
from me right now.
We're just starting school. We're just
doing everything. I'm a good boy.
 You
hear?
 Well, we need some type of marked
cage car. She's in custody. Things are
calm now. She was fighting, but things
are calm.
 I'm sorry. I got more than I'm
scared.
 Get me somebody as soon as
possible.
 Sure.
 All right. Bye.
 I'm
sorry. You seem mad at me.
 I'm not mad
at you. I'm disappointed. I didn't want
to do this in front of your kid.
 I tried
very hard not to do this in front of
your kid. This is not what I wanted to
do.
 Why did you guys meet us at my
apartment? I've been there. I've been
staying there.
 Milwaukee's been to your
apartment before.
 No, they haven't.
Well, I'm not going to argue with you
about things that have been done. And
we're not going to discuss it here with
your kid in the next room. Your kid
can't go with that.
 He's going whether
you want him to or not.
 He can't.
 He is.
It's going to happen.
 He's going to
Arizona with that.
 He's going to go to
Arizona.
 No, he can't. He can't.
 I'm
sorry.
 Oh, he can't. I would never see
him again.
 We have more information
about the aftermath of this incident and
how Carson's custody rights were
affected coming up as our team has been
in direct contact with the father
himself. But first, this officer soon
runs into some unexpected problems.
There's not much I can do. I'm trying to
take you from me. There's no real people
that are trying to kidnap him.
 There's
not much I can do.
 Why?
 Because my hands
are tied. Court order is a court order.
My mom.
 No, we're done with that. Not
going to give you any of the courtesies.
Why?
 Because you fought with us.
 What?
 I
was Because you fought with us.
 I'm
sorry.
 Hi, this is Shuster from Calonia.
Remember I called earlier? Um, I need an
agent to come out to uh Gford
Elementary. I explained it to the other
lady. There is no report. There will be
a report. We have a missing and
endangered kid from Arizona.
 No, he's
not endangered. He's not missing.
 And I
need you guys to come out and take
custody of him.
 No. No.
 Need to put in a
report.
 Okay. Well, now I can't do that
right now. But I need someone to come
out cuz there's only two of us and
everybody else is on a PI accident.
 Way
to do this later so I can talk with like
the district attorney.
Sure. big work with them and I have
We'll talk about it later. Not now.
 But
my kid can't go with them right now.
 Not
now.
 He'll be taken.
 Not now. I know
this is a lot, but we tried very hard
not to do this this way.
 He'll never see
me again.
 Okay, I'll give you some basic
information. What do you need?
 More
officers now arrive as the officer is
still on the phone.
 She can go back to
the PD, please.
 I got CPS on the line.
You make me make a report now. Did
somebody search you over?
 Uh, yeah. We
patted her down.
 Well, we're not going
to
 Do you want a rescue squad to come
check you out?
I just
 Well, if you say you're going to
have a seizure.
 Okay.
 So, so I'm telling
you right now, I mean,
 you having a
seizure is not going to help you see
them faster, right? Okay. Well, well, so
I want to know which one is it. Are you
fine or you going to have a seizure? I
don't have much information for you.
Thanks, boss.
Carson can come out here and you can do
your assessment if you'd like. Carson
was taken by child protective services
and eventually returned to his father
back in Arizona. McKela originally
showed up at Carson's school in Arizona
and took him to Wisconsin where she hid
for almost 8 months. Statements from the
father indicate that Carson was
eventually listed as a missing person
and a felony warrant was issued for her
arrest out of Arizona which led to the
body cam you just witnessed. The father
states that due to her actions, she lost
all custody and parenting rights.
Interestingly, the school Mckela was
attempting to enroll Carson in at the
time of her arrest saw that he was
listed as a missing person, which caused
officers to come out. Wisconsin court
records indicate she was extradited back
to Arizona. She is presumed innocent, as
previously stated. This case was
submitted to us by a viewer of the
channel. If you have interesting stories
you'd like us to cover, you can contact
us at this email address. And what
happens in a relationship that drives a
person to go from loving parent to
kidnapper? Because when people are
wrapped up in custody disputes, things
tend to go from bad to downright cold
and calculated. Because think about it,
you have a parent that has totally
thrown logic and reason out the window.
And all they see is what they want. And
the more that they attempt to outrun the
course decision, the more they're
sealing their own fate. And probably in
her mind, flying from Arizona to
Wisconsin was done out of love for her
child. But as a parent, she should have
stopped and truly asked herself, "What
will be the long-term consequences of my
actions?" But Michaela's face is what
shook me when the detective arrived. She
had a nervous and forced smile, which
was unnerving to be honest because she
couldn't keep her face from showing the
truth. She started to look scared and
worried. And the craziest thing is cops
do have to deal with custody disputes
all the time. And it's like watching a
movie that you want to stop, but the
batteries in the remote died. So, you
just have to watch this thing play out.
And poor Carson has no clue as to what's
going on. In his mind, he's just with
his mom. And she did explain everything
to the officer, so she knew that she was
in the wrong. Now, in Arizona, they have
the custodial interference law, which is
when one parent tries to disrupt the
child custody rights of the other
parent. Examples are limiting the
child's contact with the other parent
and failing to hand over the child on
schedule. Now, the kidnapping law is
loosely defined as taking the child
somewhere in violation of the custody
order, whether the parent crosses state
lines or merely relocates within the
state. And it may be considered
kidnapping if the child custody order
does not authorize it. And this can get
you up to four years in prison,
probation, and a fine of $150,000. Now,
at this point, the gravity of the
situation is starting to sink in because
she's frantic and throwing out reasons
that she thinks will prevent the
inevitable. And this actually shows me
that she's not putting her son first and
she's making this situation about her.
And we did see that the apple didn't
fall too far from the tree cuz the
grandmother nearly got herself arrested.
And guys, as parents, I know it's hard,
but everyone has to follow court orders
because if not, they can possibly lead
you to getting arrested. And think about
this. The National Center for Missing
and Exploited Children estimates that
approximately 200,000 of the 260,000
children abducted each year are taken by
a parent or other family member. And
that's definitely concerning. Now, in
the end, these are always the toughest
calls for police because in the short
term, Michaela was arrested and she gets
yet another court date. But my question
is, how will Carson deal with this in
the long term? Because kids have a way
of thinking everything is their fault.
So, my hope is that Carson will get the
love and help that he's going to need
because as he grows up, he's probably
going to have many questions of what
happened in that school classroom.
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