I don't know what I did. I just told you sir, you were speeding. I was not speeding. I never went over 25 miles an hour. Michigan law requires you to step out of the vehicle when asked by an officer. Do you understand that law? No, apparently I don't because it doesn't exist. >> This is the deal here. I'm going to go back and I'm going to run your name. Okay. I'm going to come back and I'm going to give you a chance to think about you getting out of the car. In this video, a late-night traffic stop in Crawford County, Michigan turns into a tense dispute between a deputy and a driver accused of speeding. Instead of focusing on the citation, the deputy repeatedly presses the driver with unrelated questions and orders him out of the vehicle. The encounter grows into a debate over police authority, legal commands, and constitutional rights during a routine stop. Watch how the situation unfolds and the deputy gets exposed. I don't know what I did. I just told you sir, you were speeding. I was not speeding. I never went over 25 miles an hour. Yeah, you did sir. No, I didn't. Okay. Absolutely not. I never went over 25. Where you headed to? What is that I don't understand what any of that matters. If you're going to write me a ticket for speeding, then write me a ticket for speeding. We'll go to court. >> I will. Okay. Okay. But other than that, I haven't done anything wrong. >> Okay, I'm going to ask you one more time to step out of the car. Okay, I'll step out of the car. Yeah, that's a really good decision you just made. Put your cigarette out. Well, you're on a power trip, huh? No, it's no power trip, sir. >> Absolutely. >> doing what the law allows me to do. >> What law are you referring to? >> Michigan law, sir. What Michigan law? What's the statute that you're referring to? >> Michigan law requires you to step out of the vehicle when asked by an officer. Do you understand that law? No, apparently I don't because it doesn't exist. >> It doesn't exist? >> No, what probable cause do you have for having me to have to get get out of the car? Because I asked you to. You asked. Is that a lawful order? Yes, sir. Really? Yes, sir. How? What do you mean how? >> Yeah, I'm asking you how. Why? Well, what do you mean how? >> Yeah, what is your your reasonable articulable suspicion that I committed a crime? >> I can do is ask you to. Wait, I just asked you if you were asking me or telling me if it was a lawful order. You said that it was a lawful order. Now you're saying that you were asking me. It is lawful. >> a supervisor out here, please? I'd like to speak with a sergeant. >> Okay. This is the deal here. I'm going to go back and I'm going to run your name. Okay. I'm going to come back and I'm going to give you a chance to think about you getting out of the car. >> I'm not No. No, no. Listen, who are you talking to? You're not intimidating me. I'm not trying to intimidate you. >> me a ticket, then write me a ticket. >> to ask you to get out of the car. >> Okay. >> Okay? And if you don't get out of the car, you are going to jail. Do you understand? Do you understand me? >> Do you understand? Deputy Lane. >> understand? >> What have I done to create this hostile environment in the car? De-escalate. Get out of the car. Sir, I'm asking you what I did. Sir. I'm not going to ask you again. You're opening my car door and removing me for what? A speeding ticket? I am asking you to get out of the car. >> And I told you I would get out. >> Then get out. I don't understand why you're being this way. >> Being which way, sir? You're being hostile. You're not being hostile. Sir. De-escalate. I'm not upset. What do I need to de-escalate? >> threatening me. I'm not It's not a threat. Okay, listen. Here's the deal, sir. Can I Can I ask you something? >> Not till I'm done talking. >> First you tell me to >> done talking. >> What is with your power trip? Not till I'm done talking. It's not a power trip, sir. Why are you being authoritative over me? If you want to write me a ticket then Okay, you go ahead. You keep Just keep talking, okay? Keep talking and let me know when you're done. I'm sorry. >> You let me know when you're done. Keep your hands out of your pocket. You let me know when you're done and then I will talk. >> Okay, I'm done. You Are you sure? >> Yes, sir. You're not going to interrupt anymore? No, I'm not. Okay. Michigan law requires you to get out of a police car when requested by a police officer. >> I wasn't in a police I'm I'm not done. I wasn't in a police >> done talking. >> You told me when I got >> I said when I'm I asked you to if you were going to be done talking so I could talk. >> Sir, I was done talking. >> talk again. >> I was done talking. >> Go ahead. You just told me when you told me to get out of a police car. All I'm saying is It's required by law and you're not in a police car. >> That's what I just said. >> You are not in a police car, sir. You just told me I was in a police car when you told me to get out of a When you Please help me out here. No, nobody's going to help you out. >> You said Go ahead. You Go ahead. If you would stop, I would explain. Oh, okay. I'm going to explain. You explain to me what the law >> told me when I'm asked to get out of a police car that I'm to get out. >> When you're asked to get out >> you said. When you are asked to get out of your car by a police officer >> camera on? >> you are required to by law. Do you understand that? >> understand what you're saying. Perfect. I don't agree with it, but I understand. >> matter if you agree with it or not, sir. It has no effect on it. Okay. Are we clear? Yes, sir. Good, I'm glad you understand Michigan law. How much have you had to drink tonight? >> Nothing. Not a sip. I don't drink at all. You don't? Okay. Well, you're displaying behavior like you have. >> No, I'm not. I'm on my way to work. Uh where do you work at? >> It's none of your business. Where you coming from? >> It's none of your business. >> So, you're just Drivers are generally required to provide identification during traffic stops, but they are not obligated to answer unrelated investigative questions such as where they are traveling from or going to. playing behaviors like >> No, it's not. Why? Because I'm not bowing down to your attitude and your power trip. >> It's not a power trip, sir. >> exactly what it is. >> No, sir. No, yeah. You don't have the right mentality for this job. >> Oh, I don't. >> Well, I've been doing it for I know a lot of cops. >> Oh, congratulations. >> Yeah, and none of them act like you. 31 years and I don't have the right mentality. You know more than I do. No, I'm not claiming I'm not claiming that I know anything more than you. Well, you seem to. You're being aggressive. >> You I'm being aggressive? Do I look aggressive to you? >> You start running your mouth and then you start getting out of my car. You didn't have your lights on. All you had on were white You didn't have your lights on, all you had on were white lights. Oh, we had our lights on, sir. You had white lights. We had lights on, sir. >> Okay. They were just white. There were >> You seem to know everything tonight. >> I'm going to request your dash cam, your body cams, all of it. Request everything, sir. I'm going to go right to Sierra. It's all over the car. You Oh, you're going to start throwing names out now? I know Sierra. I know cops. >> Nope. I'm just saying that none of them act like you. I've never had this experience a cop ever. Never. >> Wow. It's fine, sir. If you'd like to give me a ticket, I'll accept the ticket. I'll take it to court. It's fine. >> Yep, of course. >> It's fine. Of course you will. We got about another freaking 11 minutes though and this is unlawful. I mean now we're unlawful? Yeah. Okay. There's a reasonable expectation for a speeding ticket time frame and all that stuff. You're sitting here for no reason. It's unlawful. I'm not sitting here for no reason. I'm I'm letting you talk, sir. I'm just talking. I just Well, you say that several times and you just keep talking. Okay. You on any narcotics right now? >> Nope. Nothing at all? No, I don't answer questions. I'm done answering questions. You ever been arrested before? As I said, sir, I'm done answering questions. Okay, just stand right there for me. Absolutely. You got your license right there? Yeah, got it. Just step outside the car though. 11 16 24. Can you see if you can get an updated insurance? 11 16 24. See if he has an updated one. Do you have a updated insurance card on you in your vehicle? Uh this one's expired, too. I get it on my phone if that's okay. Yeah, that's good. I apologize. I did not want this to go this way at all. That guy, he's got an attitude problem. I don't know what the problem is. And then that's the Jeep. That's the other Charger. 5 16 25 expiration. 2006 Dodge Charger. I can go check the dinner real quick or after we're done. Okay. Thank you for being professional here. That's a 2006 Dodge Charger. Out of Roscommon. Here's the Here's the I'll be just a second. Is it a ticket? Can I just turn off my headlights so my battery doesn't die? It's not running anymore and it's only 20 degrees out. Let me do that for you. >> it's the toggle on the left. Thank you. Yep. You got your ticket up here? Huh? Here's your ticket home. For here, sir. Do you have insurance? Yes, sir. It says on it. 5 16 25 >> Oh, yep. Thanks, sir. It was current. Um The only thing I thought was weird is that I checked the VIN cuz he showed me his insurance on his phone. Mhm. And there's like a a pink pouch that's jammed up in the dash right where the VIN number is. I think the plate's in the back window. You can You can tell him to have a seat in his car. We'll be right out. You can go ahead and have a seat in your vehicle. Okay. Okay. I know it's cold out here. Thank you very much. Yep. Mr. Kowalski, you're getting issued a violation this morning for a violation of the basic speed law. You can take care of it within 10 days at the town court of Crawford. All the directions are on the back. The court address and phone number are on the front. Do you have any questions? Not for you. Thanks. Okay. Make sure you have your seat belt on, okay, sir? This encounter ultimately ended with a speeding citation and no additional charges. Under the Fourth Amendment, police must have reasonable suspicion to initiate a traffic stop, and once lawfully stopped, officers may order drivers out of their vehicles for safety reasons. Situations like this show how quickly disagreements over authority could escalate during routine stops, highlighting the importance of understanding both police powers and citizens' constitutional rights.