Officer stops driver for a phone use. But can't clearly explain what was actually seen. Every answer raises a bigger question. What law was actually broken? violation that you observed. >> That you were using your phone in a non-hands-free capacity. >> So, are you telling me that you I was not using my headset? That you saw me using my phone. >> said that. Then what did you see? >> That you were using your phone in a non-hands-free capacity. >> How exactly is a What is a non-hands-free capacity? It can't be in your hands while you're operating your motor vehicle. Yes, if it's in your hands while you're operating your motor vehicle >> So, you can't You can't touch your phone in any way, shape, or form while you're driving, even if you have a headset on. I want to know what exactly you saw me doing. >> I have repeated that multiple times. >> No, you just said I was in a violation, but you're not explaining what the violation is. What's the violation? >> Of course you can touch your phone in all sorts of different ways. >> I touched my phone. I simply touched my phone to turn it off and set it down. Now, are you telling me that that is in violation? >> I'm telling you that what I observed was a violation. >> No clear violation, just authority that can't explain itself.