I'm not going to make it hard. You guys already know that I know my stuff. You're going to call your supervisor and we'll handle it. and we're going to handle this. Why am I going to Why am I going to give you my info? >> I need your ID, that's why. Not only that, bro, but if you're detained, you're lawfully detained, I need your ID. Unless you want to get arrested for failing to ID. I mean, and I don't want to arrest you. I'm giving you chances. In this video, a driver is pulled over after an officer claims something hanging near the windshield obstructed the driver's view. Under the Fourth Amendment, police may stop a vehicle they can articulate a specific traffic violation or reasonable suspicion. The driver questions the reason for the stop and refuses to provide identification until the officer explains the legal basis for the detention, turning the encounter into a dispute over authority and lawful orders. I'm following you. I want to know why I'm following you. You were going that way, okay? You made me stop and you made me go and you double backed. Don't don't give me that behavior. Yeah, you double backed, bro. What's your name? I'm Agent Cerda. Okay, what's your badge number? >> Okay, 5480. Okay, what's what's the No, I'm not going to make it hard. You guys You guys already know that I know my stuff. You're going to call your supervisor You're going to call your supervisor and we'll handle it. You're going to call your supervisor and we're going to handle this. Handle what? This situation. No, why am I going to Why am I going to give you my info? For what? For what? >> Because this is a traffic stop. Okay, call your supervisor. I don't want to deal with you. Because I don't want to deal with you. What, she's going to tell you the same thing? No, she's not. How do you know that? >> Because you guys have stopped me before. Just by Just by looking at me, you guys freaking pulled me over and I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this. I don't care, dude, but you were going that way. You saw me, you made me You made me You made me and you double backed. You double You double backed. You double backed. As soon as you saw me, you double backed. >> What's pissing you off right now? That you're stopping me and I have something to do. I don't want to do business with you. >> want to do business with I don't want to do business with you. What makes you think that if I bring somebody else they're going to do something else? Because the supervisor is going to you you had no reason to pull me over for. I just told you you can't do it right there. Dude, leave us alone. You think I'm just messing around or what? >> You obviously you're doing something. Why'd you come to this side? What do you mean come Why why why did you tell me to put my hands on the steering wheel? This is my car. I can do whatever I want. I can do whatever I want in my car. That's fine, but I'm telling you put your hands on the I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. It's my car. >> Okay, I'm just saying that it's just for my safety. >> And you know what? Don't touch my car either. That shit's pissing me off. Don't touch my car. I'm not going to show it to you. Give me your supervisor. Give me your supervisor. Give me your supervisor. Give me your supervisor. Give me your supervisor. Give me your supervisor. I'm requesting a supervisor. I'm requesting I'm requesting a supervisor. Okay, well go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Call your supervisor, please. For what? Because I'm asking you to. It's a request. And I'm asking you too for your It's a request. It's a request. >> I'm going to give you one more [ __ ] chance now. Don't cuss at me. Don't cuss at me. DON'T CUSS AT ME. Don't cuss at me. Don't cuss at me. Be professional in your job. I'm trying. Am I not? You hear Are you hearing? Are you hearing? Are you hearing? I'm going to show it to you. I'm going to show it to you. I'm not going to give it to you. Look man, it can be easy No, it's it's it's an easy way to go in a bunch of day not pulling me over. So, what is your what's the deal? Look look, I don't like I don't like cops like you, bro. Why? What have I done to you? I I I don't like cops period, bro. I don't like cops period. Because you guys pull me over for no [ __ ] I don't I you all look alike. Okay, but have you ever You you all look the same. Okay. Your request is here? This is your request, right? It's your request. What's that? Driver's license, right? >> yes. That's all you need. Look, man. I'm trying to be polite. >> No, no, no, no, no. It's okay. It's okay. What's up? And what do we feel for you, yeah? You double back on me. Who said I double back on you? I stopped I was looking at you. I I already know this, man. >> times I stop over people and they say, "Why are you following me?" And I don't follow them. You weren't following me. I'm not saying that you were following me. I'm saying that you saw me, you stared at me, and then you double back. >> at you? >> Bro. The officer now begins to articulate the reason for the stop, claiming that an object hanging from the windshield may have obstructed the driver's view. Traffic laws in many states prohibit objects that significantly block a driver's visibility. You think I'm blind? You think I was born yesterday? >> Okay, you think that I'm lying to you or what? >> I I I know you're lying. I know you're lying. >> How can I stop you? But you tell me what you did, bro. >> And then what? And then >> And then you saw me, you looked right at me, and then you double back on me. My god, bro. No, my god, bro. My god. >> told that? I I I don't I'm telling you what it is. I'm telling you what it is. >> Is that what's bothering That's what's bothering you. That's what's bothering you. >> Okay, bro. Look. That you're profiling, bro. >> Listen, I've never done that. I I ain't got nothing I ain't got nothing on me. I ain't got nothing on me, bro. If you want something, cabrón, no. I'm trying to walk the straight [ __ ] line, bro. Okay. Well, you need to relax, man. It's okay. That's pissing me off. You know how many times I get stopped by you guys? I've never saw I've never stopped you before. I've never done you, bro. I I I'm a cool guy, bro. As long as you keep it cool, it's cool, bro. >> It's It's It's Look at what I'm trying to tell you, bro. Siempre que me watcha, you guys pull me over, bro. What is it? Is it how I look? Is it the car? What is it? >> you, your face or whatever or how you look. I told I told you I told you double back. >> that I can pull you over just for that, man. Okay. What's What's the legit reason, bro? What's the legit reason? What's the legit reason, then? You're like the third person I've stopped today. You're like the third or fourth person I stopped. I just came in. I'm doing my job, bro. It's not a big deal. It's as easy as you show me ID, I give you a warning for that. Pero porque te porque porque te lo tengo que dar, bro? You know damn well I don't need to give it to you. You're not the first person that told me that. You know I don't need to give it to you because you don't have a legit I'm not I'm not I'm not breaking any kind of laws, bro. Okay, so check it out. The reason for the stop, bro, like I told you, you see that? You can't have it hanging from there. The reason why What what what is it? I'm going to tell you because it obstructs your view from the window. >> what what what what part of it are you talking about? This? >> phone the cell phone hanging right there, bro. The cell phone. I didn't know Just the cell phone? When I saw you when you passed by me, remember right here? When you passed by me, I saw and I saw I didn't know what that was. Okay, so what so Okay, so Where where am I where am I supposed to put it if if I need to find directions? >> it somewhere else, bro. But I don't know I don't know that. If you have a center console or something, there there's some that you could attach to your vent. But this is the one I bought for this same reason so I can look at it, bro. But check it out. You can't have it there. The reason why there's going to be more people that are more anal about it. I told you I'll give you a warning for that. I didn't know what you had, but I saw you had something blocking you right there. I didn't know it was your phone. Okay? I know people buy that, bro, but doesn't mean that it's legal. If it blocks your view, then you can't have it. You can buy some for your vent or something you can put there, boss. Okay, I'm going to make I'm going to make the the question like simple as dirt. >> Okay, go ahead. What's the difference between you and I? What I don't know. What is it? Tell me. Okay, because you have a camera same place where I have mine. Okay. Is that obstructing your vision? No, it's not. And mine's not either. It's not a camera. What is it then? It's a mirror? It's a it is You're talking about the thing right there? It's a winch it's the the mirror, but it has a You have a camera right where I have my phone, bro. It's not a It was this. It's already inside the the mirror, man. But what's the difference between you and I? Obviously, my taxes pay you, right? >> Okay. Okay, so what what what how come I can't have this right here where I where I don't have to touch my phone if I'm going somewhere. Uh-huh. And and you have the same thing. What's the difference? Because we're law enforcement. We're the ones that are doing >> No, you're not above the law. You are not above the law. The driver now challenges the officer's authority, arguing that law enforcement should be subject to the same rules as ordinary drivers. While officers do have certain operational exemptions when performing their duties, those exemptions do not place them above the law. Well, no, I just You said I'm I'm Yeah. >> We're law enforcement, so we need this stuff to monitor traffic, to to enforce traffic law. We need all this stuff. We need cameras. And and I need this to go to where I'm going. Okay, I understand, but like I told you, you you can have I'm not saying it's illegal to have something to have your to to connect your phone to. You just can't have it right there, bro, because it can obstruct your view. You feel what I'm saying? Something as small like as that can block somebody that's crossing the road and you won't even see or if you're distracted with that, you can hit somebody. I'm just saying because it's happened, bro. I never put it, bro. >> deal. Look, I could have approached you. Just show me an ID, I'll give you a warning for that. I didn't know what you had there. >> game. I mean, no me cae that that you guys take take it up take it Okay, you're you're you're you're guys is you're guys is is I'm going to call it a gang cuz it's a gang. You guys are a damn gang, bro, porque no mas se junta uno y se juntan 20. Okay? And and it it and it every time you see this car, every time like como te digo, okay, you said it was that, but obviously it took you a while to pull me over. What do you mean a while? It took you a while. No, no. You know what? I thought you followed me into a lane and then I tried to move up. Just driving mean I'm following you, man. Okay? You know how many times I get told I I I get >> you just finished saying that you saw this and then that >> I said when I passed by you right here. Right here. Right here. And you kept looking at me when I looked at you and I looked and I saw you had something right there and I didn't know it was your phone. I just saw that you had something right there. It's not a big deal, but look, I've never stopped you. Don't tell me Don't Don't say you guys always stop this car. I've never stopped this car. I've never stopped you in my life, man. So, when you come off like that, how do you expect me to act? If you If you already come at me like with with an attitude and don't tell me you didn't have an attitude, bro. I I I do have an attitude with you guys. I always do have an attitude with you guys. Okay, I mean, it's it's it's the same issues I run into. I run into the same issues. Okay, so they can pull over here, bro. How come you didn't approach me through the driver's side? I'm sorry? How come you didn't approach me through the driver's side? You know why? Because I can I can see everything. I can see your hands. I can see If I'm like this, bro, you can have your hands right here and I don't know if you have anything, right? But if I go to that side, then I can see your hands. It's just something that I prefer. I know everybody likes to come through here, but it's something I prefer because I've seen people hold guns and stuff, you know. We have a partner We had a partner that got shot and killed. You already know. But like I don't know, but I don't know. Exactly, and I don't know. And and I don't know you. And when I say you pull over here and you come in here >> Well, because I'm not going to put I'm not going to put my car in other people's way. And that's the only way you guys know how to tow cars. Are you talking about like And and the side Okay. If you If you No, I'm I'm not I'm I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to pull my car in where either you can get hit or I'm going to get hit. We all know that people everywhere No matter what you're saying, they But the thing is that I can't read your mind, bro. Like I don't know what you're doing. I don't know I didn't know if you're going to pull in or you're going to try to jet and go through here. I didn't know. Because I never had somebody just booms straight into a parking lot. And then what if I can't come because people are coming? You feel me? And then plus when I come and then you I can already tell you were mad. So, Because I saw you following me from all the way over there, bro. That's beside the point, bro. Okay, yeah, I've already passed that. But say you're in my shoes You're in my shoes, right? Yes, sir. Put yourself in my shoes, man. And then you approach somebody. They already They already have an attitude. They already have an attitude, right? How do you expect me to act? I'm trying to tell you, bro. Look, I didn't know you had your phone there. All you got to do is give me your ID so that way I can scan your stuff and I can give you a warning. I need your ID, that's why. Not only that, bro, but if you're detained, you're lawfully detained. I need your ID. Unless you want to get arrested for failure to ID. I mean, and I don't want to arrest you. I'm giving you chances. I know that I'm not doing nothing wrong in order for for you I didn't say you know, I didn't come to you interrogating you. What are you doing? What are you having here? Who are you with? Where are you leaving? No, I didn't, bro. I just said give me your ID. And I said that thing that you had right there, you can't have it cuz it's blocking your view. I didn't know it was your phone. >> But, okay. How how did I It's cuz you guys make it harder than it seems. How how do you know it's blocking my view? Because it's not blocking my view, bro. I'll give you an example. You know like the the disabled placards? Like the disabled You can't even have that. And it even says it on there because it can obstruct your view. You can't have like You know people like to put bandannas, the the how do you say the the the dice? But that's that's that's just an excuse You're not supposed to have anything that that blocks your view on it. That's just an excuse for you guys to pull people over. What's that? Your computer is blocking your view, too. I understand you got you guys need stuff like that, but there's no difference between you and I because it's it's obstructing your vision, too. It's not. You can't put yourself above me because you're not. I didn't make the rules, bro. I didn't make the rules, but we need that stuff. I need that stuff. So so then I can pull you over and do a citizen's arrest because you have that obstructing your view. It's pretty It's pretty I can tell you're mad. I'm pissed off, bro. If this is the excuse the only excuse that you have to pull me over. Do you mean this? It's I know I have nothing on me. I don't have warrants. I have my driver's license. You know You know You know anybody can tell me Okay, look, you know how many times I heard that? I can use anything as is excuse to pull you over. I can Exactly. I can even use this. You know why? >> No. I'm I'm within. I'm within. Where is it? Cuz I can't see. Can I Can you see it from here? Yeah, I know. I know it's there, bro. >> Okay, so you already know. Hey, tell me cuz this looks like more than 5 in. >> It's not. You feel me? It's not. >> even see your AS1 line. That's why I know that it's past your AS1 line. >> Okay, tú sabes que cuando compras estos otra vez, ya no no vienen con ellos. Okay. So, check it out, man. Look, it's not a big deal. Anybody can tell me, "Look, you pull me over at at for this as an excuse." It could be something as small as just your turn signal. I've heard it all the time, bro. It didn't have to go like this, bro. So, like I told you, when I approach you and you already have an attitude, well, how am I supposed to be? Like, "Okay, well, this guy's going to have an attitude." It's cuz it's >> can it go smooth, bro? It's cuz you got I didn't come to you with an attitude, dude. I can already tell you were mad. It's cuz you guys Look, look. Your your department already has a bad reputation, Camilo, bro. Who stopped you last time? >> Un también un youngster, bro, que se la tira muy acá. How long ago was that? That was like in March. In March? You know, at gunpoint. Is that really necessary? At gunpoint? >> Is that necessary? For what? Just because my sticker was expired. No, but why did they have you at gunpoint? That's what I'm asking. That's what I want to know. And and and the only thing that you guys could justify with is that you Oh, it's cuz you had warrants. That was after the fact that I gave you my ID. You know what I mean? That it's stuff that's unnecessary. It's like And let me ask you something. Have I done anything unnecessary to you? Have I pulled you out of your car? Have I done anything? I I have you on video. I I have you on video. Why would you try to open it, bro? If If you If If you said If you said it's as simple as just giving the ID, >> Exactly. it's unnecessary force. Unnecessary force. I'm recording everything, too. And and and and I do this I do this because I'm tired of you guys, too. Listen to me. Listen to me. Just the same way you can look back and and and track everything, I can look back, too, at at at at uh me asking you for ID and you telling me no. If But ask for a supervisor because you had to be a supervisor. I I Yeah, I know. And then I'm not I'm not I'm not saying I did it. But I'm now respectfully telling you that if I bring my supervisor, she's going to tell you the same thing that you can't have that there and yes, you do have to show me your ID, bro. It's cuz you you guys threaten people with that and >> threatening But what is it? I know I know, but you're not letting yourself I'm not saying you're not letting yourself. And and I mean, I can tell it seems like you've been you've dealt with us before, right? Right. >> So, I'm not trying to threaten you, bro. I'm just letting you know. I I could have >> I I I don't think you got a threat. >> have to I don't have to give you my ID the first time, I could have just said, "Okay, you're under arrest now. Get out." But I'm I'm trying I'm trying to give you chances. But okay. I'm not a bus. Okay, so can I just see your ID so I can scan it, bro? And then I'll give you a warning. That's going to tell you what I got. That's the thing. I'll show it to you. You got my name. But I need I need to scan it. It's going to take longer. You said you got somewhere to go. If I have to enter everything manually, bro, it's going to take longer. So, if you just give it to me and I scan it and I can give you a warning and a copy, you could have been you could have already been gone, bro. You could have already been gone. You said you got no warrants, no nothing. That's fine, bro. Okay. >> nothing to worry about. You want me to show you my ID and then show you mine? I'm sorry? You show me your ID and I'll show you mine? Right here, bro. This is >> No, no. Your ID. What do you need to see my ID for? Okay, this is it's your property. >> don't have to show you my ID. It's your property, right? Let's get Okay, you want me to show it to you. I showed it to you. >> to show it to you. I showed it to you. >> Okay, I Okay, well I need to give it to you? No, okay. I'm asking you. Do you want to give it to me so I can scan it? >> want to give it to you. I want to show it to you. Okay, can I see your Okay, let me see your ID first one cuz I didn't get your ID the first one. You just showed it to me. Pedro Martinez Where's your date of birth? 9 24 83? Okay. But I'm just telling you the reason why I'm asking for it is because I can scan it and it can go faster. But if I have to enter everything manually, it's going to take longer. Yeah, I don't like handing people my stuff. I don't like handing people my stuff. Okay. Okay, that's fine. As long as you show it to me, that's fine. But I'm just telling you it's going to take a little longer, bro. Okay. Okay? Are you cool? I'm fine. Are you calm, bro? Yeah. Look, it could have been simple, bro, but the fact that you didn't want to show me your ID, that that that's why it got the way it to where we're at right now. Okay. Are you cool? Yeah. Okay. Give me a second, all right? All right, bro. This is a warning, all right? Just going to be fair, man. Unless you want to get pulled over again, just just take that off. All right, bro. Okay, are we cool, bro? Yeah. Look, I didn't mean no disrespect, man. Okay? Just when I approached you, I could already tell you were mad. All right? All right. I never told you my life, bro. Okay, so if we see each other again, bro, I don't want no no hard feelings, bro. >> I'm never going to look at We live in I work in the same You live over here and I work in the same area, so Okay? I'll go to my house. Just a warning, bro, okay? All right. This encounter shows how a routine traffic stop can quickly turn into a dispute over constitutional authority. Under the Fourth Amendment, police must have a lawful basis, such as a traffic violation or reasonable suspicion to initiate a stop. Once lawfully detained, drivers are generally required to provide identification. In this case, the officer ultimately issued a warning, highlighting how disagreements over the reason for a stop can escalate into a prolonged legal confrontation.