We It's going to be suspicious. We black
people.
Let go. We still
>> Why would she leave you? Where's your
mom? I mean, she went through a field
and was going over 100 mph through red
light. I would never left my kid like
that, but I just
>> On January 22nd, 2025 in Washington,
Illinois. Police were called to a
Walmart for reports of multiple women
stealing merchandise. After apprehending
them individually, officers learned
they're all part of the same family.
>> All the gray. All right. Okay.
No, that's it right there.
>> Okay, I see it.
>> Okay. The Edward King 74393. It's
heading north in the field. They said
there's still one in the store.
Washington 2. I terminated. They went
through the red light at college and 24
speed over 100. It's pretty crazy. Never
had anyone go through the field and
ditch me like that before.
Let's go see what we got going on here.
Where's the girl at?
>> Okay.
>> You're about to go. Shut. Shh. Quiet.
You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can or will be used
against you in court of law.
>> Okay.
>> You have the right. You move again. I'm
going to put you on the ground. Do you
understand your right?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Can I Can I
>> Hold on. So So So why am I here today?
>> Um I don't have nothing to do to do with
that.
I'm telling you, I don't have nothing to
do with that. You looking for some
people, but I literally was with some
people, but I don't have nothing to do
with that. Somebody just gave me
Somebody just gave me $10. That's what's
in my hand. That's what I'm trying to
tell you.
>> Can you put it in my pocket?
>> Okay. So, you don't have anything to do
with what? What are you talking about?
You came with some people. Where did
they go?
>> I don't know where they went, but I they
left me. Like, I came in here to use the
phone, and that's my $10. Like, you can
literally ask them. I don't know where
they
>> Do you have an ID or anything on you? My
ID is not with me, but I'm 22 years old.
I don't have no reason to lie to you or
nothing. Well,
>> it'll go a lot better for you if you
don't lie to me.
>> I'm not lying. I'm not lying to you. I'm
literally telling you the truth.
Somebody gave me $10. Like, literally, I
came in here and asked him cuz I'm not
from out here. You feel what I'm saying?
I came out here with some people.
Literally, I don't like I'm from Poria.
>> They don't have Walmart and Menards in
Poria. Why'd you choose these ones?
>> I was with some people. They I wasn't
driving. You feel what I'm saying? I'm
not going to lie to you because I'm
telling you the truth. You feel what I'm
saying? If anything, they need to come.
They need to come, too. Like, I'm not
going to go to jail for nobody. You feel
what I'm saying?
>> Let's back up a little bit. You were
with some people.
>> Yes. They left me.
>> Who were you with?
>> I was with my c I was with my cousin.
>> Who's that?
>> One of them name is um Kamaya. The other
one named Bri. Feel what I'm saying? And
I'm not going to be You feel me? I'm not
going to go to jail for
>> What did you guys come over to Walmart
for?
>> They wanted to come to Walmart. I didn't
know what they like I'm not going to lie
to you. I didn't know what they was
doing. You feel what I'm saying? They
didn't tell me what they
>> My bad. They didn't tell me. No, cuz I'm
kind of nervous. You feel me? They
didn't tell me what they was doing. You
feel me? I literally was scared. So, I
asked somebody.
>> It's all on video. Then I'm going to
look at that. Okay.
>> So, let me ask you this question. So,
you didn't you weren't going to Walmart
to steal?
>> No, that's not what I was doing.
>> So, then why are you carrying an empty
backpack and the only thing in there is
Walmart?
>> I'm not going to lie to you.
>> Then don't lie to me. I I feel like I
got to be in truth.
>> No, I did come I did come with them. You
feel what I'm saying? Like I was came
with them. I did.
>> You were going to take stuff, but you
did.
>> Right. Is that what you're saying? So
you were going to take stuff. You were
going to steal stuff, but you did.
>> Yeah. Like they literally, you feel what
I'm saying? They literally like, "Come
on." And I'm literally telling them like
I'm literally looking for them and they
gone. You feel what I'm saying? Like I
ain't going to lie to you. I'm really
scared because there's nothing to be
scared of.
>> You're not going to get hurt. We're not
going to hurt you. We're trying to
figure out what's going on. Okay,
>> I know that. But it's just like, yeah, I
might have ran from the lady because I
really, you feel me? I was afraid I was
to come out here. You feel what I'm
saying?
>> Okay. But you did say you were coming
out here to steal, but you just didn't
take anything. You attempted to steal,
but you just didn't take anything.
>> Did you get scared? Did she see you and
scare you or what happened?
>> I don't like Sir, I'm really going to be
honest with you.
>> You know, she's kind of scared. She kind
of scared me.
>> She scared you.
decided you weren't going to take the
stuff. What all were you coming to take?
>> I mean, I was going to get me some
because like I said, I really hopping
from house to house. You feel what I'm
saying? I ain't going to lie to you.
>> You're trying to get what? Clothes or
food or what?
>> Like I was trying to get some clothes.
You feel what I'm saying? And I'm not
from like I'm not from out here.
>> Is Is there anything on you that's going
to stick me, poke me, hurt me? Any
weapons? Anything like that?
>> No. Can you call and make sure you want
to?
>> I just got to check and make sure you
don't have anything on my pocket.
>> My pocket. Can you put my money in my
pocket?
>> I don't want to put it in that pocket.
>> No, not that one. I'm talking about the
one on my pants.
>> This is for a full size white pan.
>> No, the one I was chasing went through
the field and took like dupes a hazard.
>> Yeah.
>> They ditched her. They left her here.
>> Excuse me.
>> Yes, ma'am. Okay. I'll make sure my um
my limb blocks and my um
>> Yeah, I'll make sure we get all
>> and my money with me.
>> We'll put it in there.
>> I'm just making sure I don't have no
wants.
>> I'm just making sure you and that you
are who you say you are.
>> I am.
>> Whose car is it?
>> It's um Kamaya's mom. Um if I don't have
any warrants or anything, then um can I
take you back to Poria?
>> We shall see. Okay.
>> Because I don't have no way. Like they
literally love me.
>> What's that?
>> That's not mine. That's in your bag. I
got that from another store though. The
girl the card who card is a mom. That's
her.
>> But where was this stolen from?
>> She got that from Walmart and um Poria
on University.
>> Kamaya Gibbons. Why do you have Kamaya
stuff in your bag?
>> Because that bag is not mine. That bag
is Kamaya. If you understand what I'm
saying. That bag's not mine. Can my
money and stuff go in my pocket? My
money in my chest. Cuz that bag's not
that bad's not mine. We'll make sure
everything gets
>> Let's walk out here to the car.
>> 20 key sound two people for me, please.
>> Why you buckling me up?
>> Cuz we're going over to Walmart. You got
to wear your seat belt.
>> But these Can you loosen these? Cuz
>> loosen them. Loosen them. How?
>> Like they a little bit too tight. Turn
and let me feel them here.
>> I can get a whole finger in both of
them. If anything, they should probably
be a little bit tighter. I won't I won't
put your seat belt on so you can lean
forward. Okay. Since we're just going
across the parking lot. All right.
>> But see, I'm not I'm not going to go to
jail for nobody because I'm not the
>> I'm not sure who they all the parties
are that were involved or whatever.
>> So, right now, just with those two, this
is all push out. I mean,
>> I thought my firm I paid with a firm. I
thought it went through. I didn't know I
didn't go through until he told me the
door. That's why I gave him the cart
back cuz I thought it went through.
>> You you bro like on some real life being
respectful G. All that shaking your head
when I went like d I said my friend
didn't go through if I wanted to push
that part out. I could have pushed it
out. That's what I'm saying. Oh, she
being mad. Disrespectful. D I told you
stop for one second.
>> Wait, try let us talk and we going No,
I'll talk in a minute. You'll get a
chance in a minute. I I've asked you
several times and I'm going ask you to
be quiet. It's suspicious.
>> I told you I understood that we black.
It's going to be suspicious. We black
people
say we stealing.
>> Let me know. I can finish because right
now we're not getting anywhere.
>> It's suspicious when I have two people
as cold as it is running and walking
fast and going across the parking. When
I see somebody drop a bag, it's
suspicious. Okay. So,
>> yeah, because Ryan left us like
>> you let me finish. Are you going to let
me finish? So, I stop. If everything
checks out, we're good, right? You say
you didn't steal, you say you didn't
steal it, then you guys didn't do it. We
got cameras, we'll check it. If they got
it wrong, guess what? You get to go. But
if that's not the case, then we're doing
something else. You're not helping
yourself by sitting there yelling and
talking to somebody that had nothing to
do with your actions. If you carry it
out,
>> she's shaking her head in. What's she
shaking her head for? Like
>> with her firm? I know y'all probably
don't hurt. Y'all probably don't use it
cuz y'all probably got
>> Don't use what
>> affirm. You know where you pay for your
item. A firm they pay for your whole
card then you pay it off over time on
the app. That's what I did and I scanned
my phone thing. My phone went dead after
I scanned it. So I pushed my card up
thinking that it went through. I didn't
turn around to check for no receipt. I
don't need no receipt when I spend my
money. So I just let it go through and I
walked out. When he was like, "Where
your receipt at?" I don't got no receipt
at. He said, "Give me the card." I gave
him the card.
>> But you have a receipt on your phone,
correct?
>> Yes. But my my phone is dead. Like it's
not turning on. My phone went dead as
soon as I did the phone thing.
>> You got ID on you?
>> No, I don't I don't got no ID on
>> How old are you?
>> I'm 19.
>> How old are you?
>> 21.
>> And forgive me if I'm asking a silly
question, but we're talking like
biological mom, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> He talking about we we'll look alike to
you or something.
>> You don't
talking about biological mom or
something.
>> Cuz I don't like that. But cuz I'm in
here trying to explain to y'all that if
if it ain't go through, I understand
that. But I paid with my affirm and my
phone went down right after that. When
he asked me did I have a receipt at a
door, I said I don't have a receipt. He
said get a card up. I gave it to him. No
hesitation. If I was stealing, I would
have overdid my stuff. Defending myself
would have did the most. I gave him a
card because I paid with my affirm. I
seen the barcode thing. If you replay
the camera, you see me. Look, look at
the camera. That's me. What you see?
[ __ ] my head.
>> You act like the register and then you
walk away.
>> No, I was pamper. You see my phone now.
G, stop playing with me. So dead ass.
Ain't no acting like I paid with my firm
account and my went dead and I did not
know it didn't go through until you stop
me.
>> That's racist ass. Yeah, he racist as
hell.
>> He racist. You see me? Look, you see me
clicking on stuff. He racist.
>> He might just be jaded.
>> Talking about some
jaded meaning a lot of negative stuff
and
>> I understand that. But don't take that
out of me cuz I didn't steal nothing. I
sold you my bag. My bag is empty.
No
>> with the with the firm thing. This is an
app, right?
>> I could go I could go show you on a bar.
I could go to step check out what you
right now and show you what I did.
>> Understood. What happens if you I mean
because I don't know
>> like it's a app like you pay like you
pay for like a car. The app pays for
your card soon as you buy it, but you
have to pay them back a certain amount
every two weeks or even every couple
days over the time
>> just like a credit card but it's
>> Yeah, that's how it work. That's how it
works. What happens when you like like
when he asks you for the stuff and you
you bought a bunch of stuff and you
leave it here and you leave you still
pay that's what I'm saying. You still
have to pay for it.
>> Yes. A firm paid for it. What what I'm
supposed to do with that.
>> Briana too. How a firm works through
Walmart is you have to order everything
online. So you
>> I didn't I didn't know that when I got
to the thing because it said a firm. I'm
like I can I'm like I can save you some
money today. I said I'm not going to pay
with cash. with the firm. That's why I
That's why I clicked on it because I
thought I could pay with the firm. If
you would have if they would have if
they if the lady who's in step
Washington and she would have came up to
me and told me like if you pay with a
firm you have to order your groceries.
She did not say nothing. She asked me
what I was paying for. I said I paid for
the firm and she walked past her. She
didn't say nothing. When you came when
we walked out you was like that's what
I'm saying. You was like where your
receipt? I was like I don't have one.
You said give me the card. I guarantee
you with no hesitation. I didn't argue
with you. I didn't try to fight you,
push you down. You was being funny
towards me. So, where your ride at?
Where your ride at? They left you. Now
y'all walking. Woo. Woo. This. You ain't
have to do that on my on my
You ain't have to disrespect me cuz I
didn't disrespect you. I gave you your
car. Even though my phone was dead. I
didn't know that my phone went through
or not. You told Exactly. You telling me
that it has to force it work different
in priority if you understand it
differently. That's what I'm saying the
correct information. So
>> see I didn't know that when it gave me
the option step check out I thought I
could pay with a firm.
>> I get that. But how you use a firm
though is only through online. It's not
a store aspect thing. So you would only
ever use it online. If you were using a
firm today you would not have gone in
the store to get your items. We get them
for you and we drop them off to your
vehicle. That's how that works.
>> All right. Go ahead and step out for me.
Please. Please do not run. when I ran
the Chicago marathon. I will catch you.
>> I'm not going to run. I'm not like you.
>> Hey, have this a different thing. You
saw the same thing.
>> So, so what what do we go through? Like
we situation there was a misunderstand
with the fire thing with a
>> Hold on. I'll talk to you in a second.
Hold on. If you tell me the truth, we'll
we'll work with you. If you don't, you
will you will you will not like it.
Okay. So, let me just say something here
to you now. You have the right to remain
silent. So, I just chased that gray car
through a field down all the way almost
to Poria.
>> So, why don't you step out there with
him and you step out over here with me
while he talks to her.
>> That'll work. And then I'll come talk to
you, too.
>> So, I just asking you to be cooperative,
okay? If you cooperate and all you did
was steal some stuff, I'll give you a
ticket in a court date and you'll walk
out of here. If you lie to me, I promise
you I'm going to make a difference.
>> We just explained it here. day was in
the middle of the stand in Poria. I can
play with a phone on my phone. I can
scan a barcode. My phone is dead right
now. You see in the camera, I pull my
phone out and scan the barcode. My
barcode went through, but the phone went
dead. So, I didn't know it did not go
through.
>> How did you get here?
>> My mom. The the same person you texted.
That's my mom.
>> So, she brought you all here today. So,
>> and she ditched you all to here?
>> Yes.
>> That is terrible.
>> Like, we stuck in Washington. I stay a
whole baby. I'm not going to steal
nothing. I came in here. I scared. So,
who who else was with you? It's you,
her, the girl I had here, and your mom.
That's it. There's no one else.
>> The girl in the red jacket, y'all
saying?
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, your So, your mom left
all three of you here and took off. Why
did she have a warrant or something?
What's What's the deal? Does that's why
she
>> No, I think so. She took my other
>> cuz she was outside in the car. She was
>> That's why I'm saying her and my sister
left us. They did not come back in the
store and say we going to go or nothing.
They just left. When he took my car, I'm
going to the car to try to explain the
situation to my mom. I'm running towards
the car to try to explain to her so she
can come from my cart to try to talk to
the man. She disappeared. He He picking
at me some where your ride at? They left
you. Woo woo this. So I'm running around
the parking lot looking for my mom. He
like, "Yo, why left you? Haha. This haha
that." I'm like, "What you mean?"
>> So what it comes down to though is you
have these items. You did not pay for
them. Okay? I'm going to write you a
ticket. You're going to have a court
date to go to. Your mom is in a world of
cuz she ran from me. I will find her.
There's no question. Okay? So she can
come turn herself in and I'll be cool
with her or she can hide and I'll come
pull her out of bed if I have to. Right.
So you can tell her that at a later
date. Are these are these other two
ladies going to tell me the same thing
that you're telling me?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. I hope so cuz I mean I don't like
it when people lie to me.
>> Nobody's to you. I promise you.
>> All right. Red red pants, come in here,
please.
>> Thank you.
>> All right. Briana, her name last name is
Buntley. Is she a sister, a friend, a
cousin? What is she?
>> She's my friend.
>> Friend. How about um
>> Dunigan? The other girl? You don't know
her?
>> Huh?
>> Done again.
>> Ronisha.
>> Okay. So, the driver of the car, you
know her?
>> No.
>> I mean, it's Kamaya's mom, right?
>> So, did you realize you guys didn't pay
for everything or what? What happened?
>> No, like she said she was she was
ringing up and she was paying on the
little app walking outside. She her
phone went dead. I don't know what
happened. I ain't going to lie. And then
I was going to get my money in my car so
I could pay for that stuff. I ain't
going to lie. I just walked out with So
you so you came into Walmart without any
money to buy something?
>> No, my my money was in my car. Like in
the car that I came in is right in the
car. So I'm thinking I bring it in, but
I didn't bring it in. So I check my my
wallet or whatever and the money went
in.
>> Okay. And then you walked out without
the items. That's
>> No, I was going to get it. It's a He
stopped us and stuff. So
>> did you have items with you when it did?
I mean, you had the items with you,
right? Okay. So what I mean, you're
being cooperative. I'm going to give you
like I told her, I'll give you a court
date and you show up at court. You don't
show up at court, they'll give you a
war. It's in the courthouse is in PE. So
Teslas will count.
>> Since I'm not going to take you to jail,
let me take a picture. One, two, three.
Thank you.
>> Why you taking Why you being petty?
>> Oh, you got to look at the camera. One,
two. There we go. Thank you. So what
what she has told me is that they all
came here together.
>> Yeah, they didn't like came here to
steal things. She personally stole
clothes. Is that right?
>> Yeah, because I needed clothes,
>> which is all that merchandise is still
in.
>> See, I did say that. I told her.
Frankly, I apologize.
>> That's why I said you misunders you and
he misunderstood me because I said that.
>> What's the uh what's the name of the
driver again? Last name Gibbons, but
what was her first name?
>> Huh?
>> The driver of the car. Kamaya's mom.
>> Malika.
>> Malikica.
She came in too.
>> Everybody came in.
>> Okay. Okay.
>> And conversation of my mom. Me, Marishia
came through this door. Jazz and my
other sister came through that door.
That's why I wanted to tell.
>> Okay. I see it in the video. But thank
you for telling me that. But why would
she leave you?
>> I don't know. I
>> It's your mom, right?
>> That's what I'm saying. I don't know why
she left us.
>> And she she drove I mean she went
through a field. I mean it it was crazy
and was doing over 100 mph through red
light. So I don't I don't know. I I
would never left my kid like that. But I
don't know if you guys got something.
>> That's what me and Jas said. I'm like
bro my mom ain't never leave me. That's
why we running through the cuz I'm
telling J. I'm like I don't see her car
nowhere. I just go there to try to see
that she move on. I'm like she ain't
never just leave us here. We always stay
all the way up to Arkansas.
>> How you just going to leave your kids?
>> All right. So, I'm going to write you a
ticket. You'll have a court date you
have to go to. Okay. And that'll be
that. They don't want you back at
Walmart. They're going to give you
paperwork saying you are banned from
mobile. Okay? Just so you know. And
that's every Walmart, not just this one.
Okay? They'll drive her the car. I'm
going to find her and she'll have a
little bit more charts. I know you know
who she is.
>> You said go home.
>> I have to come find her at 3:00 in the
morning. Pull her out back. But she
could come to the Washington police
department, get some tickets.
>> Yeah. If she comes to Washington police
department, I will be cool with her. I
promise you that if I Oh, yeah. I will.
>> She made you just like you. You won't be
mad.
>> You said you was all through the field.
>> Yeah. Well, I didn't drive through the
field. She did. I'm not going to wreck
my car.
>> So, I'm not going to wreck my car.
>> My car. If she comes, I'll give her some
tickets and she'll be good, too. But she
if I have to come find her, it's not
going to be fun. But
>> we good.
>> I'm all good. You're all free to go.
Hope your day gets better.
>> Her mother, Malikica Higgins, turned
herself into the authorities later in
the day. She received charges for her
traffic violations and for fleeing from
an officer. Caria Gibbons was charged
with retail theft and obstructing
justice. Jasmine Timothy, Ronicia
Dunigan, and Briana Buntley each faced
retail theft charges. What started as a
plot to save them money resulted in
$4,000 worth of tickets.